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Nancy D’Hondt Part 1, Evolution Of The Pharmacist

In part 1 of this Exclusive Interview, Nancy D’Hondt talks with Diabetes in Control Publisher Steve Freed about the increase of the knowledge and responsibility of modern pharmacists.

Nancy J. D’Hondt  RPh, CDE, FAADE is an ICU pharmacist in the St. John Health System in Detroit.


Transcript of this video segment:

Freed: This is Steve Freed. We’re here at the 78th Scientific Sessions from the American Diabetes Association, and today we have a special guest. Are you presenting this year?

D’Hondt: I am not, no. I don’t have enough time. (Laughs)

Freed: She’s very unique. She’s an RPh, CDE, FAADE, past president of the American Association of Diabetes Educators, and very actively involved. So, why don’t you start out with giving us a little bit of information about yourself and what you do?

D’Hondt: So, I work inpatient, outpatient. I work for Ascension Health. I do the bulk of my job as inpatient pharmacy, setting protocols, nurse education, staff education, looking at formularies. I work with our outpatient diabetes education program, which is a certified program. I teach with them, help with some patient uptake, evaluations. I work for an independent pharmacy and I work for a long-term care facility.          

Freed: I always had this nightmare dream that when I was a little kid my dad would take me to the Museum of Science and Industry. And we’d go downstairs where they had the old city and there’s an old fashioned drugstore. And we walked in there and there’s a model of a pharmacist with a white coat. And I would say to my dad, “Who’s that?” and he’d say that’s a pharmacist. And I’d say to my dad, “What is a pharmacist?” and he says, “Well, that’s someone who fills your prescriptions and talks about the medication,” and I said to him, “That’s stupid. We have computers that do that.” And I recently was in a pharmacy where they had a machine that you put your ID card in and your prescription pops out. So, that’s one of the reasons I go to pharmacy schools and talk to pharmacists, why they need to get more involved with patient care. And I think that’s where pharmacy is going. It’s changing.

D’Hondt: They are. So, getting more into the clinical space. It’s taking longer to get through pharmacy school, that’s why they have a Doctor of Pharmacy [degree] now. They’re doing more of the clinical interventions, and recommendations, and patient management, and for most of the chronic diseases there are specialists.

Freed: So, it’s coming.

D’Hondt: It is.

Freed:  I don’t know if I’ll be around, but it’s taking so long.

D’Hondt: We’re working on prescriptive authority across the board.

Freed: Right.

D’Hondt: Yeah.

Freed: And they really needed my idea of pharmacist. And I helped a lot of students get involved. It’s that you find a friend who’s a doctor or a relative and say, “Can I come in one day a week and help manage your diabetic patients?” and you can share them, giving them 50% of what you charge for an office visit. So, there’s ways to do it. And students just need to — I get to work with interns. My partner, we have about three interns every month that work with us on our newsletter. And I talk to each one of them about getting more actively involved. From what I can tell — they’re going for their PharmDs– is that I can tell that pharmacy is changing by what their requirements are and so forth, which is good. I wish I could go back to pharmacy school and start all over.

D’Hondt: That’s right, we’re the experts.

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